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The Break-Up Diet
Welcome to The Break Up Diet—your weekly dose of self-improvement, glow-ups, and everything breakups (yes, not just the romantic ones). Hosted by Yasmin and Ilma, we’re your no-BS besties here to guide you through every type of breakup—whether it’s from a person, a toxic cycle, or even your old self.
We’re flipping the breakup narrative.
No more heartbreak—just transformation. No more setbacks—only glow-ups. Breakups are the ultimate opportunity to level up, and we’re here to help you do exactly that. Whether it's navigating friendships, situationships, or even kicking bad habits (we see you, vaping!), we’ve got the raw, real talk to help you rebuild and thrive.
Grab your seat, darlings—this is where the best version of YOU begins.
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The Break-Up Diet
Jess Hobbs on Why Being Selfish in Your 20s is the Best Thing You Can Do
What happens when your wanderlust collides with your love life? Jess joins us to share her refreshingly honest perspective on choosing adventure over romance, even when the relationships were genuinely good. As a fellow Australian in London, she offers a unique window into the expat dating experience and why Aussies abroad seem to find each other everywhere they go.
Our conversation tackles the modern dating landscape with unflinching candor. From the frustrations of dating apps producing "pen pals" who never actually meet up, to the nerve-wracking art of making eye contact with attractive strangers, Jess shares both practical advice and entertaining anecdotes. Her experiments with meeting people in real life instead of through apps reveals both the challenges and unexpected rewards of taking dating offline.
Where this episode truly shines is in challenging conventional wisdom about relationships. Jess embodies what it means to be "selfish" in your twenties in the best possible way – prioritizing personal growth, travel, and self-discovery over settling down. Now approaching thirty, she's neither desperate to find someone nor closed off to possibilities, but instead occupies that rare sweet spot of genuine contentment with her single life while remaining open to someone truly special.
Whether you're nursing a broken heart, contemplating a major life move, or simply trying to navigate the bewildering world of modern dating, this conversation offers both practical wisdom and permission to put yourself first. Because sometimes the bravest thing you can do is choose yourself – even when it means saying goodbye to someone you love.
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Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Breakup Diet, and today we have someone very exciting here. Would you like to introduce yourself, jess?
Speaker 2:Hi, I'm Jess. I'm another Aussie in London and I'm so excited to be here today.
Speaker 1:Thank, you for coming. I like that we've scouted out another Aussie we have we can't avoid each other.
Speaker 3:It's like a thing that is an Aussie we have. We can't avoid each other. It's like the thing that is an Aussie thing. Yeah, like they all kind of.
Speaker 1:Do you? Have you noticed that?
Speaker 2:when you're out. Yeah, mom's like do you have any British friends?
Speaker 1:I'm like um, I don't think so, but we we have this theory that we think Australians that are abroad are better than Australians. That aren't abroad.
Speaker 2:Yes, because you're all like here for the same reason and I feel like you've got like similar interests. You want to be overseas, so you just like click with yeah definitely the same, like vibe, same life chapter.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, we're not off our house.
Speaker 2:Honestly, all my friends back home love them to death, but they're like married. Some have two kids.
Speaker 3:Moms love them to death, but they're like married two kids.
Speaker 1:The momsy theory love them, love you, but they just have it sorted way faster.
Speaker 3:Is it mean to say their outfits as well, like the smock dresses?
Speaker 2:it's just different. But yeah, like I was just home recently and like it's so good to catch up with your friends and nothing's changed, like you just slot slot right back in.
Speaker 3:It's like a time machine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy, yeah, but it's also just like so different to my friends here.
Speaker 3:Cause I feel like we would have at least three character developments till the next time we go back to Oz for Christmas. And then, honestly, it's actually true and we probably would have had like five breakups and our friends are like happily, I it's actually true and we probably would have had like five breakups and our friends are like.
Speaker 2:Happily, I'm on to my third kid I'm like, okay, I want to be the, the 40 year old mom with like a toddler and all their kids are like teenagers. But that's fine yeah, we're gonna get there I think you have stories to tell lots of stories when I'm, when I settle down like best believe I'll be ready buckle up, bitches, it's gonna get bumpy.
Speaker 1:This is the breakup diet. Have you had a breakup?
Speaker 2:yes, I've had lots of breakups actually.
Speaker 3:How many is too many for the soul?
Speaker 2:Honestly, but not to sound like I don't know what the word is, not cocky, but like I feel like for the most part it's been me doing the breaking up, because most of the time.
Speaker 3:Women in male fields. Literally.
Speaker 2:No, but it actually is. I'm like I'm very independent and when I get my sights set on something like moving overseas, it's mainly I want to move overseas. So I end up ending the relationship. But like when I want to do something, I'm like you're getting in my way like boss bitch pretty much but yeah, my last relationship ended because I was moving to London. But that was like a beautiful relationship and it ended really nicely like it just wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 1:Um, that's nice that you have a nice breakup, yeah it was.
Speaker 2:He was so mature about it and he was like I don't want to go there, you don't want to stay here, like it was nice how it lasted, kind of thing when you have a nice breakup, do you find it harder to move on because they're so nice um, I want to say no, because I was moving to London, so it was like I was distracted. Yeah, I was excited. I like had no other choice but to just like, like, move on you were like, forget about him no, but it's true like I was so busy settling into London that you just kind of yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's better if you have a breakup and you're the one that moves away.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, I can't imagine having like a nice breakup and just being in the same city Like how does that even work? Surely you just end up, yeah, you just feel like, oh okay, yeah, but I've also had some, some bad ones.
Speaker 1:Not really bad, but just like, just like. Yeah didn't end nicely. I guess all to do with when you were moving.
Speaker 2:Are they all? Yeah, most of them were, because I was moving. One of them was kind of like a whirlwind relationship, was kind of a funny story.
Speaker 1:But what do you mean, though? A whirlwind relationship like love, bombing, or no, I mean no. You have to think though. I was like there's a little bit of something.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I was living in Greece and I was working there for a few months for summer and then I met this South African guy. Long story short, I ended up moving to Cape Town for a few months and like had the best summer there, and then he came to Australia. And then, as soon as he came to Australia, I was like okay, I'm over it.
Speaker 1:You got the egg yeah.
Speaker 2:I think once I was back in, like out of the travel like overseas bubble and I was back in my life, I was like, and then I was moving to LA, he was like, fuck it, like, I'll come with you. And then he came to LA with me and then it just became like it was my story and I wanted to stay there and like, build a life and and he couldn't, he didn't have a visa, so then he left um, and then it just got really messy. He like went back to Greece, ended up dating one of my best South African friends, oh um, which I found out through Instagram. Oh, but yeah, he was, he was really nice. It just ended badly.
Speaker 1:Did you have an inkling Like when that?
Speaker 2:No, because she was literally messaging me like you guys are going to get back together, Like you guys are meant for each other, my God.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry that's so.
Speaker 2:To be fair, it wasn't really rough. It was kind of just like what the like what is happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just the betrayal of it. Yeah, you don't expect it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he just turned into like a really mean person. He just was surrounded by like his best friend was also just a dick and like just bad influences, and it turned him into not a very nice person. But anyway, no, we forgive and we forget.
Speaker 1:That's good. So would you say that you would be fine with him now? Are you that level?
Speaker 2:I mean, he actually lives in London.
Speaker 1:And you said that most of your breakups are like when you're you know you've moved places. Have you ever had it when you haven't moved to a different place and you just had, like a breakup because of another reason?
Speaker 2:Yes, my like. And you just had like a breakup because of another reason. Yes, my like. First relationship. I just ended it because he was ready to like, he was just too serious and I was like I'm 18, like I want to have fun, I want to go out, and then that ended just because I was didn't want to be in a relationship so where is he?
Speaker 3:is he married and he's engaged? Yes yes, so he's, he was lovely.
Speaker 2:He was like mom, was like he was such a nice boyfriend and he was, but just wasn't for me. And then I had my next boyfriend, was like one of the ones where it was like you've been best friends since high school and you end up together and then that one ended badly. Did you lose the friendship? Um, we still like see each other now, but that's years later, yeah. But yeah, that was just quite toxic in the end, so that one had to end just because it was like not good for either of us.
Speaker 1:Can you? You don't have to, but can you elaborate on that Like toxic? How?
Speaker 2:He moved to Brisbane essentially because I was moving and he hated it and just just yeah mental health issues and then it rubbed off on me and then it was just like a whole. It was just not good. I get you yeah, and then he moved back as soon as we broke up, so like he just really didn't want to be in Brisbane, which is fair.
Speaker 1:I see, like on your TikTok, that you document, you know finding you know a man in London and stuff. Can you tell us a bit moreok that you document, you know finding you know a man in london and stuff? Can you tell us a bit more about the dating scene, you know?
Speaker 2:in london, the honestly like it's not that great. No, I mean, I'm on the apps, girl, I'm on the apps, but they're pretty rubbish. Like what apps you on? Hinge, andinge and Raya. Well, I've actually paused Raya because I'm like so expensive.
Speaker 2:No one ever meets up on it Exactly, and Hinge is actually also kind of bad with that, Like I'm not looking for a pen pal, Stop. They get my number, they message and I'm like are you going to take me on a date? Like I'm not here to text you Like I don't know you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get you. They're so annoying.
Speaker 2:They're just like not good at making Action. Yeah, you want action, man. I want action, I want action.
Speaker 1:You need to get back out there on the dating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then, like I stopped the apps because, like I'm actually sick of this, I did have like of like little situationships but since then, like I've not properly dated anyone and I was so sick of that. So I was like I'm literally done, and that's when I started the series trying to find a man in real life, because I was like let's try and meet men IRL and that's just ended in me and my friends going out and getting wine drunk and having fun yeah, are men attracted to women in london?
Speaker 2:I don't know I think they just love themselves. They're just like princesses. Yes, they think women should come up to them. I don't know which I think is also fair, like if I really am into someone like, oh, firstly, you want to try and get some eye contact to know that they're kind of interested back and it's very actually give us some tips on how to how you are getting them.
Speaker 1:I can give tips.
Speaker 2:So like I'm not an expert, so me and my friends always talk about eye contact, the like if you see someone that you think's cute, try and get eye contact with them multiple times, because if you keep catching each other's eye like you're obviously both kind of keen on each other you think you're just like they're like why is this girl keep staring at me?
Speaker 1:that would be mine.
Speaker 2:If I had to do that, that would be me but you can kind of tell if they're like, or if they're like holding it okay, okay, um, and then I guess, yeah, if you keep, hopefully they would come up to you, but if they don't, that's when, like my, heart is gonna palpitate because that's like the anticipation with the next move.
Speaker 3:We're staring. I have a lazy eye as well, so I don't know how long I can hold the stare for my heart's racing I've got like sweaty armpits, like it's nerve-wracking, but okay, the one successful story I got me sorry, like darting across the room and they're like it happened.
Speaker 2:I kept looking but he was like standing behind me. It was actually a whole group of guys that were good looking. I wasn't just looking at one of them and I kept turning around and they obviously saw and they were about to leave and I was like watching them leave and one of them turned around and he's like oh no, I think he waved at me and then he like went like that to himself and I was like yeah. And then he came over, he's like.
Speaker 3:Are you looking at me or?
Speaker 2:my friends and I was like I mean you're all cute, and then he got my number from that success, yeah, and if it doesn't work out onto the friend, no, but yeah I think it's all in eye contact.
Speaker 3:Okay, so say the guy doesn't walk over to you. How do you walk over?
Speaker 2:sexually. I'm talking a big be game because, like I sit there and I go, I'm too scared. But I think the more drinks you have in you, the easier it is Again the more you say it Liquid courage. Hey.
Speaker 3:I think you're cute. What am I saying?
Speaker 2:This is what me and my friends always debate. I'm like, am I literally just going straight to the point and being like, hey, I think you're cute. Like, like, are you single? Or my other friends like, no, don't say that. Like you just need to be like, hey, how's your night going? I'm like just want to get straight to the point, like no chit chat, action instagram makes communication a bit childish.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes it like a game, where they don't speak to you with words. They'll like you. They'll send you fire emojis it's like they don't action.
Speaker 2:I feel like instant it for me if they ask from if I'm on Hinge. They ask my Instagram and send them my number. I'll like not reply.
Speaker 1:Unless I think they're like really fucking hot.
Speaker 2:That is a good it, because my theory is they get your Instagram and then they have like instant access to you and your life. For one thing, like they can't get the full picture of you, because Instagram is obviously a highlight reel and it's like how you want to portray yourself, but they're seeing what I'm up to, Like they don't really feel the need to get to know you. Yeah, it's like, okay, I know her now, like they might still be into me, but it's just not this, like I don't know, that's what I find.
Speaker 3:There's no element of surprise anymore.
Speaker 2:I surprise. Yeah, I don't know why. It really irks me.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't and then if they never meet you, then you've just got this graveyard of like weirdo man. Yeah, liking your story, but I also think it's an air cover guy has a better yeah, and you don't want them to outshine you like they're getting better content than you, then it's like they can't win honestly social media is for the girls only.
Speaker 2:It's for us to stay in touch, it's for us to connect girls only yeah, yeah. When a guy's like oh no, like I don't really go on social media, I'm like hot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to be fair, if they don't have a social media, also hot yeah I like. I mean I like to stalk them, though I would like to stalk them, but then also kind of hot too.
Speaker 2:I know it's a sometimes it's nice not knowing yeah or also like when I see a hot guy on tiktok I'm like, oh my god, so hot. And then it's like, wait, but I don't want my boyfriend to be posting thirst traps on tiktok, like you're picturing him, like getting his tripod out like licking his lips doing a fit check. But I'm also like, oh. But when I see it, I'm like, oh, my god, it's so hot okay.
Speaker 3:So obviously, dating you and I, we get it. There's just ups and downs. You either want it, you don't. I'm in that stage where I'm so happy being single, but there's like a part of me that's like I should be out because I'm young and that's what we should be doing.
Speaker 2:Yes, how do we get back into it? I I feel like I'm the same. I go through phases Like I am so content with my single life, like a lot of my friends here are single and we just have so much fun together and I'm so fulfilled in all my friendships that I'm like I don't feel like I need a partner, but also I'm turning 30. So I feel like I need to also be getting out there. So me and my friends are trying. What we're trying to do to get back into dating is just make it a bit more fun, because I feel like we went through a phase last year where we were like what's the point in dating someone? Like if you know you're not gonna marry them, kind of thing.
Speaker 3:um, that's exactly what I'm thinking yeah, but we're like.
Speaker 2:That puts stress on it exactly and then you like get more picky, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So we're just trying to like just have fun with it do you find it hard um having a breakup or not really like to move on because you said you've had a few, so are you like somebody that looks at it like there's always going to be somebody else?
Speaker 2:I've never had a breakup where I'm literally like I can't breathe really that's so lucky ever you're like you're the heartbreaker well, yeah, I don't know. I just it is what it is. I I know I'll find someone one day, like I'm just a big believer in, like trusting the universe and I genuinely just know I'm going to find my person. So I'm not stressed about it. I think, again, it helps being in London and being surrounded by friends who are on the same page, because you don't feel that outside pressure.
Speaker 2:As soon as I'm home with my friends who are all settled down, I'm a little bit more like shit, I'm behind yeah but whenever I live overseas, even in LA, all my friends are even older than me and like a lot of them are still single and it's just like more of the norm. Um, so there's like less pressure, but I just, I just know I'm gonna find someone. So I just so you're not worried.
Speaker 1:No, have you ever regretted it?
Speaker 2:there actually was one that I got a bit hung up.
Speaker 2:We actually weren't even properly official, but like we pretty much were.
Speaker 2:Before I moved to Greece, um, we were seeing each other and he was also from like we lived in Brisbane but we knew each other from Cairns and that was one of the I probably we probably were in love with each other, but we just like never, because he knew, we knew I was moving overseas, we like never made it official and then he was kind of waiting for me while I was overseas and I ended up going to South Africa and then when I came back and like saw him again, I was like I fucked up and then literally for like a couple years I was kind of like stuck on it, just a little bit like oh, that actually could have been something really nice. But he's engaged now, so, but that's probably the only one and we won't even like officially boyfriend, girlfriend, but that's really the only one and we won't even like officially boyfriend, girlfriend, but that's probably the only one where I was like kind of regretted it's always those ones where it's great, like there's no clear label that messes with your head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the most I mean, he wasn't even a situation ship. He was like we were seeing each other like seven nights a week. We were together, but there was a situation.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, it was kind of a situation does it help you with moving on when they have a partner?
Speaker 2:um, it depends. I mean, I guess part of you is kind of like oh, you moved on, but I guess it makes it easier because you're not going. There's just no option to go back anyway. So it's like all right.
Speaker 1:Do you stalk the new partner's Instagram?
Speaker 2:um, well, his new partner I kind of. She was also from camp. I didn't know her but, like again, we've been to so many like events together where they're both there um, my most recent boyfriend, he actually got a girlfriend quite soon after we broke up, and it was more so, my friends like doing the stalking, like oh my god, I think he's got a girlfriend and like sending photos, but I don't really, honestly, I genuinely don't even stalk exes you are, so I just well, I hope I can get through life without having one of those breakups where you literally just like spiral yeah, it's nice that you've not had the crying like serious gut crying
Speaker 3:yeah, do you think it's like an age thing, where we're at an age where it's like I've like fucking 30 year olds? Yeah, looking at girls who are like 24? Do we want to do that?
Speaker 2:no, yeah, exactly it definitely, you just become and you're just like more sure of yourself and you're kind of just like I don't need that.
Speaker 1:I reckon I've probably been more caught up caught up on situationships and relationships, but I feel like that's kind of quite common yeah, super common, the breakup from a situation ship I think is worse than worse in a relationship.
Speaker 2:I was in a situation ship for like a year and a half, almost two years.
Speaker 3:It's such a mind fuck and I never want to do that shit ever again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to do that, it's not fun, but I'm also like, yeah, do I have one more in me? No, I don't, I don't, I don't when I see, like a hot younger guy on here just pop up and I'm like you would ruin my life, but like I kind of just want to roll with it for a little bit. It's really hot. But then I'm like no, jess, you're turning 30, can't do this anymore I mean, I feel like you could do it.
Speaker 1:If you want to do it, do it, you know I want a really loving, beautiful, caring handsome you need, I feel like you need. I'm trying to manifest like my friends.
Speaker 2:I like showed my friends this guy that I was talking to on hinge the other day and they were all like he's really hot, but he's gonna ruin your life.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah but sometimes the really hot ones are actually really nice.
Speaker 2:They're like yeah, nice so and nice so. You don't know, you never know.
Speaker 1:You don't know, you never know. And then sometimes the ugly ones, they actually ruin your life Exactly Like that, because you don't expect it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you're like I gave you a chance. You're like no, they're not a fuckboy, they wouldn't do that to me. They're not oh my god. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't know. Is that a bad thing? No, I think it's a good thing sometimes I think I have commitment issues, because I'm like in a relationship for a year and a half, two years, and I can't done, but I obviously just haven't found the one that makes me I'm waiting for that.
Speaker 2:I'm waiting for that love. That's literally just like a healthy obsessed, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, is it just an ick that gets you?
Speaker 2:or not even an ick. I think I just get, like it honestly is always I'm I'm moving, I'm leaving, bye sometimes, and sometimes relationships do run their courses some are meant for 10 years.
Speaker 1:Some are meant for just a year yeah do you have it when you think about it for a while, like when that's happened, or is it more like an impulsive decision?
Speaker 2:uh, it's usually like I've thought about it for a while. Like when I got into my last relationship, I knew that I was moving back overseas, like from the start. I wasn't even looking for a relationship because I was like I know I'm going to go back overseas and I kind of said that to him from the beginning. But he was quite a bit younger than me and he at the beginning he's like okay, cool, like I'd like to move overseas as well. And then when I said I'm going to London, he was like I'm not going to London because he was like so far he just couldn't do it, which is so fair. But that's the thing. Like I wasn't willing to like compromise and be like where do we want to go? It was like well, I'm going to London.
Speaker 3:So I'm very selfish.
Speaker 2:I've been very selfish in my time, but I don't regret it.
Speaker 3:More women need to be selfish in their twenties.
Speaker 1:Cause a lot of them are so boy crazy and want to settle down and do this they never do stuff for themselves in their twenties, and then they regret it later on exactly like I've genuinely yeah, don't regret anything from my 20s.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm glad that I've had lots of relationships, because I feel like I've learned something different from every relationship and now I know what I like, what I don't like. I think it's good to date and have boyfriends, but I'm also so comfortable being single that I'm like I can wait.
Speaker 3:That's a nice place to be because it's like, whatever happens, we're winners.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like they have to be pretty at this point now, like they have to be pretty amazing for me to like make room for them. Because I'm like I'm jam-packed Like my social calendar with my friends. I hate having to make time even to just date. I like my friends are going for wines like I've got to go on a date how do you juggle time with dating and work and social like and your social scene?
Speaker 2:to be honest, I haven't been dating like that much, but my thing is, dates are for like a Wednesday night, in my opinion, especially the beginning Midweek Midweek, because you don't want to waste your Friday and Saturday on a shit date.
Speaker 3:What's your ideal date?
Speaker 2:A wine bar. I love going to wine bars Cliche but bar. I love going to wine bars, cliche but. And if he suggests a wine bar that's like one of my. Like this guy is aussie guy. I actually went on a date with. He straight away suggested one of my favorite wine bars and I was like he knows we're gonna get along um yeah, I think wine or like drinks to start off with, and then maybe the first couple of dates just drinks and then lock into a dinner.
Speaker 3:Nice Dinner is so high risk for first date.
Speaker 2:Because I don't know if I'd be able to sit through three meals.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I actually saw a podcast.
Speaker 2:It was about modern dating and they actually suggested don't even lock into drinks Like do a coffee, which some people have mixed feelings about. But I actually kind of like that.
Speaker 2:Like a coffee and walk. I have and coffee date in my neighborhood, so I'm not making that major of an effort. Yes, go for a stroll, if there's a vibe maybe, then like, but then I'm, but I'm like I need some liquid courage. But then this person was like no, it's better to try and have conversations initially like sober, because you can see if you actually like them.
Speaker 1:It's not just like you're just drunk and you're like, oh, they're so sexy.
Speaker 2:Because sometimes you've gone on like six dates and you realize you've been drunk every single day and you're like wait, do I actually like them, or am I just tipsy?
Speaker 3:That's actually smart. So okay, coffee dates are in, yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because it benefits me. I haven't actually done one yet, I need to, but I I do like that idea I disagree with you guys.
Speaker 1:You want to look sexy.
Speaker 2:You can't look sexy on a coffee you can, but naturally I feel like I could style my maxi puffer jacket just yes, your basic fashion yes, no, you can still look hot no, I like a moody dark restaurant you know, yeah, you can like the wine bar where it's like dark and moody you know.
Speaker 1:So you've gone through a lot of breakups. Do you have any tips and tricks for somebody going through a breakup?
Speaker 2:I think A breakup. I think cut all comms Like unfollow each other, block them if you need to. That's what me and my well, he blocked me, but he told me before we broke up. He's like I'm going to have to block you like when you move, which is so fair. I was like in Mykonos like wow. So I think, yeah, cutting communication, like just no contact. It's the only way.
Speaker 1:And do you like soft block? So do you unblock at a certain time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's unblocked me now, but we don't follow each other. But, like he's unblocked me, it also depends how it ends, I think. But I think, no, like no communication is no matter how it ends is the best way. Otherwise you're just always going to have this.
Speaker 3:It just drags it out unnecessarily, Like I broke no contact and it just dragged it out by another year. Exactly Waste of my time.
Speaker 2:Exactly so I think, yeah, no contact, and just put all your energy into yourself and learning how to be happy with yourself. Like don't go on the apps when you break up, like just yeah, spend time with your friends, so no rebounds?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so. I think it's better to just be with your friends and learn to be happy by yourself, because then, when you're ready, you're like so set and content with your life that it's just like an addition. It's not like you're seeking this to like fill a void, you know being a friend to somebody going through a breakup.
Speaker 1:How can you support them?
Speaker 2:if you can just be there for them. I had a friend who recently went through a breakup, like they moved to London together, they were living together. It was kind of out of the blue. It wasn't a a messy breakup, but it was still like a shock and she just needed to be with her friends like as much as possible. And if you can do that like do that she would come have sleepovers nice, yeah, so nice.
Speaker 1:Not alone, you do feel. You do feel like isolated. That's the thing.
Speaker 2:It's you feel lonely, so like we'd go out on a night out and she would come and stay with me, because she's like I don't know if I go home, but I'm just gonna spiral.
Speaker 1:So we're like have a sleepover you feel lonely, even if you are like lonely in the relationship. Yeah, it's weird. You feel that's the worst kind of loneliness I never want to feel yeah, yeah, the loneliness like you're like right next to you, yeah, like he's in bed with you and you still feel so lonely, yeah oh the worst.
Speaker 2:You'd rather just be alone and lonely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually yeah well, thank you so much. You're doing so great this is fun.
Speaker 2:Yes, so great 2025 this is our year.
Speaker 3:It is our year, dirty 30 new decade new husband yeah.
